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Fwd: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication

Fwd: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication

From:
Bobinson K B
Date:
2014-04-22 @ 14:19
​My e-mail moderated in the old list of ilug. Just forwarding for the
record.

​


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <mailinglist-owner@ilug-cochin.org>
Date: 16 April 2014 17:58
Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
To: bobinson@gmail.com


Your message has been caught up at MailMan. Please check with the
Mailing List Moderator about the reason. Thanks .



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bobinson K B <bobinson@gmail.com>
To: ilug chochin <mailinglist@ilug-cochin.org>
Cc:
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 17:58:26 +0530
Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication

+1 Praveen and Sunjith

ilug co-ordinator fits the classical definition of a spammer and deserves
spambox.
On 16 Apr 2014 06:37, "SOORAJ N.S" <soorajns@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What's the problem with ILUG. As you said "Free as in Freedom ". What type
> of freedom? I had already send a mail regarding this and found that its get
> blocked. I have only one doubt as you said about the venue. Its the policy
> that, ILUG cochin should use non commercial venue. Then where we can find
> that? If you are planning this type venue, we should search for auditorium.
> I don't know why this mail. Have anyone got any complaint against event?
> Even if so, who and what type of complaint? Do they suggest any solution
> for this? I am not sure whats the problem.
> Sooraj N.S.
>
> On April 15, 2014 8:57:43 PM GMT+05:30, Pirate Praveen <pravi.a@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2014-04-15 20:16 GMT+05:30, Rashad M <mohammedrashadkm@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, <coordinator@ilug-cochin.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  To The GNU/Linux Community,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  All offical communications regarding ILUG-Cochin events & views will only
>>>>  be announced on the mailing list using the email address events at
>>>>  ilug-cochin dot org.
>>>>
>>>>  No other website or mailing list will be used for the purpose of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  communication of events and views.
>>>>
>>>>  Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily
>>>>  reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ILUG-Cochin takes no responsibility for any such programs or views.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Please read the above carefully.  To copy-paste:
>>>  ""
>>>  Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily
>>>
>>>
>>>  reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs
>>>  ""
>>>
>>>  This is true. Anyone can subscribe to mailing list. People can use this to
>>>  advertise their company, work, workshop or whatever. And all those many not
>>>
>>>
>>>  fall under the views/philosophy on Free Software.
>>>
>>>  So please dont think of this mail is only to you when reading this.
>>>
>>
>> No the problem is not with setting policy for the group, but who is
>> making the policies? Can one person decide the official policy of ilug
>>
>>
>> cochin? Where was this policy discussed? Does members have any say in
>> deciding policies?
>>
>>  What's the big deal in reading this mail if all people in this list are
>>>
>>>
>>>  standing for same reason.
>>>
>>
>> The big deal is because some people without names are making decisions
>> for the entire group. If it has to be an official policy it should be
>> discussed and approved by members. We may have to decide a process for
>>
>>
>> that. If at all we have to have a few person taking up responsible
>> positions, the community should be able to elect them democratically
>> for limited periods like in other free software communities like
>> debian. If at all we are following sabdfl method of Ubuntu, we got to
>>
>>
>> know who is that person.
>>
>> That mail did not reflect my stand, so I need to ask.
>>
>>  Moreover this list is not dedicated to any specific Free Software but to
>>>
>>>
>>>  all Free software and everything that related to it. Its quite common
>>>  people have different view at times. So you can't say that everyone reading
>>>  this agrees with each other.
>>>
>>
>> So who gets the final word on what is official? At the least we should
>>
>>
>> know who is responsible to make those decisions on behalf of the
>> community.
>>
>>  IF anyone is organizing an event that is remotely related to Free Software
>>>
>>>
>>>  in this list that doesn't mean it completely falls under the "philosophy".
>>>
>>
>> Who is deciding it? What is the process for deciding it? lets be
>> transparent about the process.
>>
>>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List
> http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/
> http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org
> #ilugkochi@irc.freenode.net
>

Re: [ilugcochin] Fwd: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication

From:
Hrishi
Date:
2014-04-22 @ 14:27
everyone's mail is moderated in the old list.
and I don't think that any mail that was sent
to that list will ever see sunlight again.



On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Bobinson K B <bobinson@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> ​My e-mail moderated in the old list of ilug. Just forwarding for the
> record.
>
> ​
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <mailinglist-owner@ilug-cochin.org>
> Date: 16 April 2014 17:58
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
> To: bobinson@gmail.com
>
>
> Your message has been caught up at MailMan. Please check with the
> Mailing List Moderator about the reason. Thanks .
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bobinson K B <bobinson@gmail.com>
> To: ilug chochin <mailinglist@ilug-cochin.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 17:58:26 +0530
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication
>
> +1 Praveen and Sunjith
>
> ilug co-ordinator fits the classical definition of a spammer and deserves
> spambox.
> On 16 Apr 2014 06:37, "SOORAJ N.S" <soorajns@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> What's the problem with ILUG. As you said "Free as in Freedom ". What
>> type of freedom? I had already send a mail regarding this and found that
>> its get blocked. I have only one doubt as you said about the venue. Its the
>> policy that, ILUG cochin should use non commercial venue. Then where we can
>> find that? If you are planning this type venue, we should search for
>> auditorium. I don't know why this mail. Have anyone got any complaint
>> against event? Even if so, who and what type of complaint? Do they suggest
>> any solution for this? I am not sure whats the problem.
>> Sooraj N.S.
>>
>> On April 15, 2014 8:57:43 PM GMT+05:30, Pirate Praveen <pravi.a@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2014-04-15 20:16 GMT+05:30, Rashad M <mohammedrashadkm@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM, <coordinator@ilug-cochin.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  To The GNU/Linux Community,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  All offical communications regarding ILUG-Cochin events & views will only
>>>>>  be announced on the mailing list using the email address events at
>>>>>  ilug-cochin dot org.
>>>>>
>>>>>  No other website or mailing list will be used for the purpose of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  communication of events and views.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily
>>>>>  reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  ILUG-Cochin takes no responsibility for any such programs or views.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Please read the above carefully.  To copy-paste:
>>>>  ""
>>>>  Views or programs announced/expressed by members need not necessarily
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  reflect the official ILUG-Cochin views or programs
>>>>  ""
>>>>
>>>>  This is true. Anyone can subscribe to mailing list. People can use this to
>>>>  advertise their company, work, workshop or whatever. And all those many not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  fall under the views/philosophy on Free Software.
>>>>
>>>>  So please dont think of this mail is only to you when reading this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No the problem is not with setting policy for the group, but who is
>>> making the policies? Can one person decide the official policy of ilug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cochin? Where was this policy discussed? Does members have any say in
>>> deciding policies?
>>>
>>>  What's the big deal in reading this mail if all people in this list are
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  standing for same reason.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The big deal is because some people without names are making decisions
>>> for the entire group. If it has to be an official policy it should be
>>> discussed and approved by members. We may have to decide a process for
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> that. If at all we have to have a few person taking up responsible
>>> positions, the community should be able to elect them democratically
>>> for limited periods like in other free software communities like
>>> debian. If at all we are following sabdfl method of Ubuntu, we got to
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> know who is that person.
>>>
>>> That mail did not reflect my stand, so I need to ask.
>>>
>>>  Moreover this list is not dedicated to any specific Free Software but to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  all Free software and everything that related to it. Its quite common
>>>>  people have different view at times. So you can't say that everyone reading
>>>>  this agrees with each other.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So who gets the final word on what is official? At the least we should
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> know who is responsible to make those decisions on behalf of the
>>> community.
>>>
>>>  IF anyone is organizing an event that is remotely related to Free Software
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  in this list that doesn't mean it completely falls under the "philosophy".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who is deciding it? What is the process for deciding it? lets be
>>> transparent about the process.
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List
>> http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/
>> http://ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org
>> #ilugkochi@irc.freenode.net
>>
>
>
>


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Hrishi | Stultus
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Re: [ilugcochin] Fwd: [ILUG-Cochin.org] ILUG-Cochin Official Email Communication

From:
Bobinson K B
Date:
2014-04-22 @ 16:03
​sad :-(

Just forwarded so that there is a record.