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Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Lei Yang
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 09:31
Hi guys,

Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not supposed
to send emails like this here.

So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend developer
role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.

You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website for
tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.

So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.

Cheers

Lei

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
David Han Sze Chuen
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 12:41
Hi Lei,

My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working for
Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm now
looking for new opportunities.

Would you be interested in checking my resume <http://goo.gl/eXJy2E> and
let me know if you're keen to discuss further?

Regards,

David Han-Sze-Chuen

LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc


On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not supposed
> to send emails like this here.
>
> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
>
> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website for
> tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.
>
> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lei
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
David Han Sze Chuen
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 12:52
Oh my... Just realised that I responded to the whole mailing list.

I hope I won't get too much flak for this ;-)


On 18 September 2013 22:41, David HAN SZE CHUEN <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Lei,
>
> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
> for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm now
> looking for new opportunities.
>
> Would you be interested in checking my resume <http://goo.gl/eXJy2E> and
> let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>
> Regards,
>
> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>
>
> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>
>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
>>
>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website for
>> tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.
>>
>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Lei
>>
>
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Paul Bridgestock
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 12:54
We’re all just rewriting your resume for you.

--
@3Easy

On 18/09/2013, at 10:52 PM, David HAN SZE CHUEN <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh my... Just realised that I responded to the whole mailing list.
> 
> I hope I won't get too much flak for this ;-)
> 
> 
> On 18 September 2013 22:41, David HAN SZE CHUEN <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Lei,
> 
> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working 
for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm 
now looking for new opportunities.
> 
> Would you be interested in checking my resume and let me know if you're 
keen to discuss further?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Han-Sze-Chuen
> 
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
> 
> 
> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not 
supposed to send emails like this here.
> 
> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend 
developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this 
wk. 
> 
> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website 
for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite 
well.
> 
> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Lei
> 
> 

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Andrew Stone
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 14:23
Reads pretty well to me and I read more than a few Dev CVs :)
Good luck with the job hunt!

:)
Stonie.


On 18 September 2013 22:54, Paul Bridgestock <hello@3easy.org> wrote:

> We’re all just rewriting your resume for you.
>
> --
> @3Easy
>
> On 18/09/2013, at 10:52 PM, David HAN SZE CHUEN <kayhadrin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Oh my... Just realised that I responded to the whole mailing list.
>
> I hope I won't get too much flak for this ;-)
>
>
> On 18 September 2013 22:41, David HAN SZE CHUEN <kayhadrin@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Lei,
>>
>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
>> for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm now
>> looking for new opportunities.
>>
>> Would you be interested in checking my resume <http://goo.gl/eXJy2E> and
>> let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>
>>
>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>>
>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
>>>
>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website
>>> for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.
>>>
>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Lei
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Paul Bridgestock
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 14:30
Indeed, stellar asset to any team, g’luck Han Sze Chuen.

--
@3Easy

On 19/09/2013, at 12:23 AM, Andrew Stone <andrew@drivenlogic.com.au> wrote:

> Reads pretty well to me and I read more than a few Dev CVs :)
> Good luck with the job hunt!
> 
> :)
> Stonie.
> 
> 
> On 18 September 2013 22:54, Paul Bridgestock <hello@3easy.org> wrote:
> We’re all just rewriting your resume for you.
> 
> --
> @3Easy
> 
> On 18/09/2013, at 10:52 PM, David HAN SZE CHUEN <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oh my... Just realised that I responded to the whole mailing list.
>> 
>> I hope I won't get too much flak for this ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 September 2013 22:41, David HAN SZE CHUEN <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Lei,
>> 
>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm 
now looking for new opportunities.
>> 
>> Would you be interested in checking my resume and let me know if you're
keen to discuss further?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>> 
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not 
supposed to send emails like this here.
>> 
>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend 
developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this 
wk. 
>> 
>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website 
for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite 
well.
>> 
>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Lei
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Thomas Gorissen
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 15:30
http://about.redmart.com/careers

We're looking for great additions in Singapore.

Also http://jsconf.asia is end of November and will be a great chance to 
get in touch with some of the greatest employers and the community around.


Cheers,

Thomas


El 18/09/2013, a las 22:30, Paul Bridgestock <hello@3easy.org> escribió:

> Indeed, stellar asset to any team, g’luck Han Sze Chuen.
> 
> --
> @3Easy
> 
> On 19/09/2013, at 12:23 AM, Andrew Stone <andrew@drivenlogic.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> Reads pretty well to me and I read more than a few Dev CVs :)
>> Good luck with the job hunt!
>> 
>> :)
>> Stonie.
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 September 2013 22:54, Paul Bridgestock <hello@3easy.org> wrote:
>> We’re all just rewriting your resume for you.
>> 
>> --
>> @3Easy
>> 
>> On 18/09/2013, at 10:52 PM, David HAN SZE CHUEN <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh my... Just realised that I responded to the whole mailing list.
>>> 
>>> I hope I won't get too much flak for this ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 September 2013 22:41, David HAN SZE CHUEN <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Lei,
>>> 
>>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer 
working for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm 
now looking for new opportunities.
>>> 
>>> Would you be interested in checking my resume and let me know if 
you're keen to discuss further?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>> 
>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not 
supposed to send emails like this here.
>>> 
>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend 
developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this 
wk. 
>>> 
>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website 
for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite 
well.
>>> 
>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Lei
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
John Scott
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 22:06
David, this might interest you.


http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page

The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
organise.
 On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Lei,
>
> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
> for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm now
> looking for new opportunities.
>
> Would you be interested in checking my resume <http://goo.gl/eXJy2E> and
> let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>
> Regards,
>
> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>
>
> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>
>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
>>
>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website for
>> tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.
>>
>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Lei
>>
>
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Jared Wyles
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 22:24
LOL at that job.

Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left off
big data.


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:

> David, this might interest you.
>
>
> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>
> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
> organise.
>  On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lei,
>>
>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
>> for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm now
>> looking for new opportunities.
>>
>> Would you be interested in checking my resume <http://goo.gl/eXJy2E> and
>> let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>
>>
>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>>
>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
>>>
>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website
>>> for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.
>>>
>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Lei
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
John Scott
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 22:39
It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:

> LOL at that job.
>
> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left off
> big data.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> David, this might interest you.
>>
>>
>> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>>
>> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
>> organise.
>>  On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lei,
>>>
>>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
>>> for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm
>>> now looking for new opportunities.
>>>
>>> Would you be interested in checking my resume 
<http://goo.gl/eXJy2E>and let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>>
>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>>>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>>>
>>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>>>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
>>>>
>>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website
>>>> for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.
>>>>
>>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Lei
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Jared Wyles
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 22:40
This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job ads.


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
> offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
> On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> LOL at that job.
>>
>> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left
>> off big data.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> David, this might interest you.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>>>
>>> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
>>> organise.
>>>  On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Lei,
>>>>
>>>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
>>>> for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>>>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm
>>>> now looking for new opportunities.
>>>>
>>>> Would you be interested in checking my resume 
<http://goo.gl/eXJy2E>and let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>>>
>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>>>>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>>>>
>>>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>>>>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website
>>>>> for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Lei
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Julio Cesar Ody
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 22:54
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Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Jared Wyles
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 22:55
It just wastes everyones time though. If i have expectation of Y and they
can only offer Y-X. Although i struggle with negotiations anyway. Pay
people what they are worth, not what they can negotiate.


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julioody@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've had that discussion (salary left off) a few times with clients. It
> may not be outright dodgy, but it's never for a good reason either, such as
> for example, the illusion that they get more "flexibility" when negotiating.
>
>
> Not even giving a ballpark figure, and you can always add that it could
> swing up or down depending on the case, creates a lot of room for time
> wasted.
>
>
> On 19 September 2013 at 8:50:36 AM, Jared Wyles (jared.wyles@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job ads.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
>> offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
>>  On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> LOL at that job.
>>>
>>> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left
>>> off big data.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> David, this might interest you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>>>>
>>>> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
>>>> organise.
>>>>  On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lei,
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer
>>>>> working for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>>>>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm
>>>>> now looking for new opportunities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you be interested in checking my resume 
<http://goo.gl/eXJy2E>and let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>>>>>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>>>>>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website
>>>>>> for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay 
quite well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lei
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Julio Cesar Ody
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 23:24
could not decode message

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Paul Bridgestock
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 23:27
They say “Compensation: Top End”. Given that we know roughly what the top 
end of salary ranges are for web developers, this gives you a solid idea 
of what to ask for, knowing your skill set and competence. It’s not 
particularly fair, but those that can negotiate well inevitably end up 
with a little more salary, at least at the start.

--
@3Easy

On 19/09/2013, at 9:24 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julioody@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree. It's self-defeating.
> 
> But there are few things as hard to calculate as someone's worth. You're
only as worth as whoever selling it allows you to be. It'll make complete 
sense to hire you and pay you *a lot* if what you're building will in turn
yield magnitudes more than that. Conversely, you're part of the risk of 
investment if there are other uncertain moving parts in making the sale, 
whatever that may be.
> 
> Big topic. I'll leave it here  :)
> 
> 
> On 19 September 2013 at 9:06:44 AM, Jared Wyles (jared.wyles@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
>> It just wastes everyones time though. If i have expectation of Y and 
they can only offer Y-X. Although i struggle with negotiations anyway. Pay
people what they are worth, not what they can negotiate. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julioody@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've had that discussion (salary left off) a few times with clients. It
may not be outright dodgy, but it's never for a good reason either, such 
as for example, the illusion that they get more "flexibility" when 
negotiating.
>> 
>> Not even giving a ballpark figure, and you can always add that it could
swing up or down depending on the case, creates a lot of room for time 
wasted.
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 September 2013 at 8:50:36 AM, Jared Wyles (jared.wyles@gmail.com) wrote:
>> 
>>> This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job ads. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They 
are offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
>>> 
>>> On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> LOL at that job.
>>> 
>>> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left
off big data. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> David, this might interest you.
>>> 
>>> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>>> 
>>> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I organise.
>>> On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Lei,
>>> 
>>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer 
working for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm 
now looking for new opportunities.
>>> 
>>> Would you be interested in checking my resume and let me know if 
you're keen to discuss further?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>> 
>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not 
supposed to send emails like this here.
>>> 
>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend 
developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this 
wk. 
>>> 
>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website 
for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite 
well.
>>> 
>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Lei
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Lachlan Hardy
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 23:28
Negotiating is hard. I'm terrible at it. So I just start high.

I usually ask for around 30% more than I'm currently earning. That way,
when they beat me down, I still end up earning 10-15% more in the new job.

But then I usually move jobs every 12-18 months so that I can get another
significant pay bump. YMMV.


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Jared Wyles <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:

> It just wastes everyones time though. If i have expectation of Y and they
> can only offer Y-X. Although i struggle with negotiations anyway. Pay
> people what they are worth, not what they can negotiate.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julioody@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I've had that discussion (salary left off) a few times with clients. It
>> may not be outright dodgy, but it's never for a good reason either, such as
>> for example, the illusion that they get more "flexibility" when negotiating.
>>
>>
>> Not even giving a ballpark figure, and you can always add that it could
>> swing up or down depending on the case, creates a lot of room for time
>> wasted.
>>
>>
>> On 19 September 2013 at 8:50:36 AM, Jared Wyles (jared.wyles@gmail.com)
>> wrote:
>>
>> This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job
>> ads.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
>>> offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
>>>  On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> LOL at that job.
>>>>
>>>> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left
>>>> off big data.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> David, this might interest you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>>>>>
>>>>> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
>>>>> organise.
>>>>>  On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Lei,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer
>>>>>> working for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>>>>>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm
>>>>>> now looking for new opportunities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would you be interested in checking my resume 
<http://goo.gl/eXJy2E>and let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>>>>>>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>>>>>>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier
this wk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing
>>>>>>> website for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay
>>>>>>> quite well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lei
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Paul Bridgestock
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 23:32
Lachlan, it sounds like you’re very good at negotiating, whether you know 
it or not. That tactic can be quite effective. The other one is to know 
what you *want* then ask for it clearly and confidently.

--
@3Easy

On 19/09/2013, at 9:28 AM, Lachlan Hardy <lachlan@lachstock.com.au> wrote:

> Negotiating is hard. I'm terrible at it. So I just start high.
> 
> I usually ask for around 30% more than I'm currently earning. That way, 
when they beat me down, I still end up earning 10-15% more in the new job.
> 
> But then I usually move jobs every 12-18 months so that I can get 
another significant pay bump. YMMV.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Jared Wyles <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:
> It just wastes everyones time though. If i have expectation of Y and 
they can only offer Y-X. Although i struggle with negotiations anyway. Pay
people what they are worth, not what they can negotiate. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julioody@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've had that discussion (salary left off) a few times with clients. It 
may not be outright dodgy, but it's never for a good reason either, such 
as for example, the illusion that they get more "flexibility" when 
negotiating.
> 
> Not even giving a ballpark figure, and you can always add that it could 
swing up or down depending on the case, creates a lot of room for time 
wasted.
> 
> 
> On 19 September 2013 at 8:50:36 AM, Jared Wyles (jared.wyles@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
>> This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job ads. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
>> 
>> On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:
>> LOL at that job.
>> 
>> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left 
off big data. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:
>> David, this might interest you.
>> 
>> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>> 
>> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I organise.
>> On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Lei,
>> 
>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm 
now looking for new opportunities.
>> 
>> Would you be interested in checking my resume and let me know if you're
keen to discuss further?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>> 
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>> 
>> 
>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not 
supposed to send emails like this here.
>> 
>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend 
developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this 
wk. 
>> 
>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website 
for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite 
well.
>> 
>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Lei
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Julio Cesar Ody
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 23:39
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Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Jonathan Conway
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 23:57
I like Lachlan's method. It's worked pretty well for me for the past 6-7
years.

The beauty of it is that there's no trickery involved. You just keep
improving your skills and demanding the highest anyone can afford to pay
you, and thus, your salary keeps rising with the market.

Cheers,

Jonathan Conway  |  M +61 433 299 472  |  T @jonathanconway  |  ABN 59 729
468 524


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Lachlan Hardy <lachlan@lachstock.com.au>wrote:

> Negotiating is hard. I'm terrible at it. So I just start high.
>
> I usually ask for around 30% more than I'm currently earning. That way,
> when they beat me down, I still end up earning 10-15% more in the new job.
>
> But then I usually move jobs every 12-18 months so that I can get another
> significant pay bump. YMMV.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Jared Wyles <jared.wyles@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> It just wastes everyones time though. If i have expectation of Y and they
>> can only offer Y-X. Although i struggle with negotiations anyway. Pay
>> people what they are worth, not what they can negotiate.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julioody@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I've had that discussion (salary left off) a few times with clients. It
>>> may not be outright dodgy, but it's never for a good reason either, such as
>>> for example, the illusion that they get more "flexibility" when negotiating.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not even giving a ballpark figure, and you can always add that it could
>>> swing up or down depending on the case, creates a lot of room for time
>>> wasted.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 September 2013 at 8:50:36 AM, Jared Wyles (jared.wyles@gmail.com)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job
>>> ads.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
>>>> offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
>>>>  On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LOL at that job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left
>>>>> off big data.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> David, this might interest you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
>>>>>> organise.
>>>>>>  On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Lei,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer
>>>>>>> working for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>>>>>>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company,
>>>>>>> I'm now looking for new opportunities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you be interested in checking my resume 
<http://goo.gl/eXJy2E>and let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>>>>>>>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>>>>>>>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started 
earlier this wk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing
>>>>>>>> website for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay
>>>>>>>> quite well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lei
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
james salter
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 23:31
sounds like you're good at it to me


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Lachlan Hardy <lachlan@lachstock.com.au>wrote:

> Negotiating is hard. I'm terrible at it. So I just start high.
>
> I usually ask for around 30% more than I'm currently earning. That way,
> when they beat me down, I still end up earning 10-15% more in the new job.
>
> But then I usually move jobs every 12-18 months so that I can get another
> significant pay bump. YMMV.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Jared Wyles <jared.wyles@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> It just wastes everyones time though. If i have expectation of Y and they
>> can only offer Y-X. Although i struggle with negotiations anyway. Pay
>> people what they are worth, not what they can negotiate.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julioody@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I've had that discussion (salary left off) a few times with clients. It
>>> may not be outright dodgy, but it's never for a good reason either, such as
>>> for example, the illusion that they get more "flexibility" when negotiating.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not even giving a ballpark figure, and you can always add that it could
>>> swing up or down depending on the case, creates a lot of room for time
>>> wasted.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 September 2013 at 8:50:36 AM, Jared Wyles (jared.wyles@gmail.com)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job
>>> ads.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
>>>> offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
>>>>  On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LOL at that job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left
>>>>> off big data.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> David, this might interest you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
>>>>>> organise.
>>>>>>  On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Lei,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer
>>>>>>> working for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>>>>>>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company,
>>>>>>> I'm now looking for new opportunities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you be interested in checking my resume 
<http://goo.gl/eXJy2E>and let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>>>>>>>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>>>>>>>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started 
earlier this wk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing
>>>>>>>> website for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay
>>>>>>>> quite well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lei
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Aaron Powell
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 23:58
So there’s a DPE job opening soon ey ;)

From: sydjs@librelist.com [mailto:sydjs@librelist.com] On Behalf Of Lachlan Hardy
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 9:28 AM
To: sydjs@librelist.com
Subject: Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

Negotiating is hard. I'm terrible at it. So I just start high.

I usually ask for around 30% more than I'm currently earning. That way, 
when they beat me down, I still end up earning 10-15% more in the new job.

But then I usually move jobs every 12-18 months so that I can get another 
significant pay bump. YMMV.

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Jared Wyles 
<jared.wyles@gmail.com<mailto:jared.wyles@gmail.com>> wrote:
It just wastes everyones time though. If i have expectation of Y and they 
can only offer Y-X. Although i struggle with negotiations anyway. Pay 
people what they are worth, not what they can negotiate.

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody 
<julioody@gmail.com<mailto:julioody@gmail.com>> wrote:

I've had that discussion (salary left off) a few times with clients. It 
may not be outright dodgy, but it's never for a good reason either, such 
as for example, the illusion that they get more "flexibility" when 
negotiating.



Not even giving a ballpark figure, and you can always add that it could 
swing up or down depending on the case, creates a lot of room for time 
wasted.



On 19 September 2013 at 8:50:36 AM, Jared Wyles 
(jared.wyles@gmail.com<mailto:jared.wyles@gmail.com>) wrote:
This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job ads.

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott 
<johnoscott@gmail.com<mailto:johnoscott@gmail.com>> wrote:

It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are 
offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" 
<jared.wyles@gmail.com<mailto:jared.wyles@gmail.com>> wrote:
LOL at that job.

Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left off
big data.

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott 
<johnoscott@gmail.com<mailto:johnoscott@gmail.com>> wrote:

David, this might interest you.


http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page

The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I organise.
On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" 
<kayhadrin@gmail.com<mailto:kayhadrin@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Lei,
My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working 
for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm now 
looking for new opportunities.
Would you be interested in checking my resume<http://goo.gl/eXJy2E> and 
let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
Regards,

David Han-Sze-Chuen

LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc

On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang 
<leiyangyou@gmail.com<mailto:leiyangyou@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi guys,

Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not supposed
to send emails like this here.

So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend 
developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this 
wk.

You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website for 
tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.

So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.

Cheers

Lei




Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
John Scott
Date:
2013-09-19 @ 00:32
My attitude - go in and ask for what you want then. 

Regards,

John Scott

Interested in technology ? I am the organiser for these local meetup groups
:

Google Developer Group (GDG) Sydney
meetup.com/gdgsydney<http://www.meetup.com/gdgsydney/>

Android Australia User Group - Sydney

meetup.com/Android-Australia-User-Group-Sydney<http://www.meetup.com/Android-Australia-User-Group-Sydney/>

Angular.JS - Sydney Meetup
meetup.com/AngularJS-Sydney<http://www.meetup.com/AngularJS-Sydney>




On 19 September 2013 09:58, Aaron Powell <me@aaron-powell.com> wrote:

>  So there’s a DPE job opening soon ey ;)****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* sydjs@librelist.com [mailto:sydjs@librelist.com] *On Behalf Of *Lachlan
> Hardy
> *Sent:* Thursday, 19 September 2013 9:28 AM
> *To:* sydjs@librelist.com
> *Subject:* Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?****
>
> ** **
>
> Negotiating is hard. I'm terrible at it. So I just start high.****
>
> ** **
>
> I usually ask for around 30% more than I'm currently earning. That way,
> when they beat me down, I still end up earning 10-15% more in the new job.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> But then I usually move jobs every 12-18 months so that I can get another
> significant pay bump. YMMV.****
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Jared Wyles <jared.wyles@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
>  It just wastes everyones time though. If i have expectation of Y and
> they can only offer Y-X. Although i struggle with negotiations anyway. Pay
> people what they are worth, not what they can negotiate. ****
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julioody@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
>  I've had that discussion (salary left off) a few times with clients. It
> may not be outright dodgy, but it's never for a good reason either, such as
> for example, the illusion that they get more "flexibility" when negotiating.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Not even giving a ballpark figure, and you can always add that it could
> swing up or down depending on the case, creates a lot of room for time
> wasted.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On 19 September 2013 at 8:50:36 AM, Jared Wyles (jared.wyles@gmail.com)
> wrote:****
>
>  This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job
> ads. ****
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:*
> ***
>
> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
> offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.****
>
> On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
>  LOL at that job.****
>
> ** **
>
> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left off
> big data. ****
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:*
> ***
>
> David, this might interest you.****
>
>
> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
> ****
>
> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
> organise.****
>
> On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:**
> **
>
>   Hi Lei,****
>
> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
> for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.****
>
> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm now
> looking for new opportunities.****
>
> Would you be interested in checking my resume <http://goo.gl/eXJy2E> and
> let me know if you're keen to discuss further?****
>
> Regards,
>
> David Han-Sze-Chuen****
>
> ** **
>
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc****
>
> ** **
>
> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
>  Hi guys,****
>
> ** **
>
> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not supposed
> to send emails like this here.****
>
> ** **
>
> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website for
> tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.****
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers****
>
> ** **
>
> Lei****
>
>  ** **
>
>    ** **
>
>    ** **
>
>    ** **
>
>  ** **
>

Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Lachlan Hardy
Date:
2013-09-19 @ 09:49
Sure is. Anybody who wants to be my boss is welcome to apply. I recommend
asking for LOTS of money :)

http://www.seek.com.au/job/25238283?cid=advlinkedin




On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Aaron Powell <me@aaron-powell.com> wrote:

>  So there’s a DPE job opening soon ey ;)****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* sydjs@librelist.com [mailto:sydjs@librelist.com] *On Behalf Of *Lachlan
> Hardy
> *Sent:* Thursday, 19 September 2013 9:28 AM
> *To:* sydjs@librelist.com
> *Subject:* Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?****
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> Negotiating is hard. I'm terrible at it. So I just start high.****
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> I usually ask for around 30% more than I'm currently earning. That way,
> when they beat me down, I still end up earning 10-15% more in the new job.
> ****
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> But then I usually move jobs every 12-18 months so that I can get another
> significant pay bump. YMMV.****
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> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Jared Wyles <jared.wyles@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
>  It just wastes everyones time though. If i have expectation of Y and
> they can only offer Y-X. Although i struggle with negotiations anyway. Pay
> people what they are worth, not what they can negotiate. ****
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> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <julioody@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
>  I've had that discussion (salary left off) a few times with clients. It
> may not be outright dodgy, but it's never for a good reason either, such as
> for example, the illusion that they get more "flexibility" when negotiating.
> ****
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> Not even giving a ballpark figure, and you can always add that it could
> swing up or down depending on the case, creates a lot of room for time
> wasted.****
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> On 19 September 2013 at 8:50:36 AM, Jared Wyles (jared.wyles@gmail.com)
> wrote:****
>
>  This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job
> ads. ****
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> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:*
> ***
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> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
> offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.****
>
> On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
>  LOL at that job.****
>
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> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left off
> big data. ****
>
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> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:*
> ***
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> David, this might interest you.****
>
>
> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
> ****
>
> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
> organise.****
>
> On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com> wrote:**
> **
>
>   Hi Lei,****
>
> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer working
> for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.****
>
> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm now
> looking for new opportunities.****
>
> Would you be interested in checking my resume <http://goo.gl/eXJy2E> and
> let me know if you're keen to discuss further?****
>
> Regards,
>
> David Han-Sze-Chuen****
>
> ** **
>
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc****
>
> ** **
>
> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
>  Hi guys,****
>
> ** **
>
> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not supposed
> to send emails like this here.****
>
> ** **
>
> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website for
> tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay quite well.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.****
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers****
>
> ** **
>
> Lei****
>
>  ** **
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>    ** **
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>    ** **
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>  ** **
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Re: [sydjs] Anyone looking for work at the moment?

From:
Clark Pan
Date:
2013-09-18 @ 22:55
Maybe so current employees don't know how much the new guy makes.

It would be pretty useful fir the job seeker though.

Cheers,
Clark

Typed on my phone.
On Sep 19, 2013 8:40 AM, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:

> This raises an interesting question. Why is salary often left off job ads.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:39 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a Jodie Rich company - which might explain the hyperbole. They are
>> offering big bucks so the hyperbole might be worth it.
>>  On 19 Sep 2013 08:24, "Jared Wyles" <jared.wyles@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> LOL at that job.
>>>
>>> Social Media high-performance computing environment. I think they left
>>> off big data.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:06 AM, John Scott <johnoscott@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> David, this might interest you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=7099340&trk=jobs_search_public_seo_page
>>>>
>>>> The company approached me to post it on some community sites that I
>>>> organise.
>>>>  On 18 Sep 2013 22:42, "David HAN SZE CHUEN" <kayhadrin@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lei,
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is David Han-Sze-Chuen and I'm a frontend web developer
>>>>> working for Optus with 7+ years of experience, specialised in Javascript.
>>>>> Having just recently finished a major project within the company, I'm
>>>>> now looking for new opportunities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you be interested in checking my resume 
<http://goo.gl/eXJy2E>and let me know if you're keen to discuss further?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> David Han-Sze-Chuen
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhsc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 September 2013 19:31, Lei Yang <leiyangyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not exactly sure about posting rules here, let me know if I'm not
>>>>>> supposed to send emails like this here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So basically I need to help a friend to fill in a senior frontend
>>>>>> developer role, the project is 6 month, and it has started earlier this wk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will be working with a team of 6 to redevelop an existing website
>>>>>> for tablet/mobile, the company is a household name, and they pay 
quite well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, if anyone happens to be looking for work. Let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lei
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>